Setting: Our confused seminarian returns for a follow-up meeting with the progressive bishop to explore further his professional prospects. The seminarian knocks gently on his mentor’s office door.
Bishop: Come in. Have a seat.
Seminarian: Thanks.
Bishop: How have you been this past week?
Seminarian: I’ve thought a lot about what you said previously. I focused especially on the implications of giving reason and experience authority equal to scripture in determining church teaching. If I understood you correctly, progressives hold that in some cases the conclusions of reason and experience should be preferred above those of scripture, right?
Bishop: Yes. That is correct. But keep in mind that by “the conclusions of reason and experience” progressives are not speaking of private preferences, snap judgments, and speculations. By “reason” we mean the considered conclusions of the scientific community, and by “experience” we mean the insights modern society has attained by listening to the voices of oppressed and marginalized communities.
Seminarian: Okay. Just wanted to be sure I hadn’t misunderstood.
Bishop: Good. What’s on your mind today?
Seminarian: I don’t remember when or how this happened. But recently I realized that I have become suspicious and even skeptical about the supernaturalism that permeates traditional Christianity and, if I’m honest, the Bible itself. Evangelicalism, Roman Catholicism, and Orthodoxy place divine interventions into the ordinary course of nature at the center of their message and practice: incarnation, resurrection, atonement, divine wrath, the devil, conversion as an individual spiritual rebirth, sacraments, a second coming of Jesus, and heaven and hell. But to many people of my generation, these ideas seem unreal, unknowable, and unnecessary—the stuff of myth and legend. In addition, they distract from the essential message of Christianity. As I understand him, Jesus focused on the love of God and love of neighbor, the kingdom of God, peace, and social justice. Why burden this beautiful moral message with demands to believe reports of supernatural acts and miraculous transformations?
Bishop: I hear you. And most progressives share your concerns. But you need to be careful. First, don’t exaggerate the problems caused by the supernatural elements in the Bible. Even if these “supernatural” ideas and stories of divine interventions are not literally true, they are part of the Christian story and cannot be removed without loss and offense. As metaphors and symbols, they communicate important beliefs about God and support Jesus’s teaching about love and justice. Apart from these symbols and such religious rituals as baptism, the Eucharist, the divine liturgy, and communal prayer, Christianity would be reduced to an ethical message without grounding or persuasive power. You don’t have to attack or ignore the biblical miracles. There are alternative ways to address your concerns.
Seminarian: Sorry to interrupt…. But something has been bothering me about what you said last week. And you just said it again. At the risk of offending you, it sounds like you are advocating deception. You seem to be advising that I should allow people in my church to keep believing stories that I know are not literally/historically true because I can draw useful lessons from them. Wouldn’t this be treating them as children?
Bishop: You did interrupt! I had anticipated your apprehension—it is a common one—and was just about to address it.
Seminarian: Sorry. It’s just that I keep hearing the voices of my conservative parents and my fundamentalist home church pastor in my head raising the charge of deceitfulness and elitist condescension.
Bishop: You must keep in mind the difference between the church and the academy. Seminaries, divinity schools, and university religious studies departments question tradition and explore alternative theories of theology and religion. That’s the reason they exist. In our academic studies we learn to doubt and think critically about traditional forms of Christianity and to subject them to testing by reason and experience. Studying Christian theology, the Bible and history academically (that is, critically) inevitably raises doubts about the supernaturalism of the Bible and traditional theology. The two attitudes (critical versus believing) are incompatible, for to believe biblical miracles we have to sacrifice reason, and to obey “revealed” moral laws we have to deny the authority of experience.
In contrast to the academy, church life is all about piety, worship, community, and practice. As a minister, you are not obligated to share your academic doubts and critical conclusions with the people. Church attendees can neither understand nor appreciate the rigorous academic study of Christianity. It’s not our task to disabuse them of all their naïve beliefs and literal interpretations of the Bible. We don’t have to tell them bluntly that the stories of Christmas, Easter and Pentecost are not literally true. We can draw good lessons from these and other miracle stories without either denying or affirming their historicity. Most people that attend progressive churches are happy not to hear traditionalist demands for obedience to “revealed” moral rules. They will be perfectly content to hear general platitudes about kindness, love, racial and environmental justice, acceptance of difference, and celebration of diversity. What matters is that we minister to our church by assuring them of God’s acceptance and presence in all circumstances and that we instruct them in the ways of love and justice.
Seminarian: I want to be sure I understand you. Since we know that the supernatural beliefs, taken in a literal sense, are not of the essence of Christianity, we need not feel a sense of urgency to correct our members who innocently hold them? Hence our silence on the literal/historical truth of the incarnation, resurrection, new birth, etc., does not count as deception and elitist condescension but a teaching strategy appropriate to a popular audience?
Bishop: You could put it that way. But I can’t follow up on this right now. I have a staff meeting in ten minutes, and I have to make sure the agenda is in order.
Seminarian: Next time…I do hope you will meet with me again. Next time, I’d like to discuss some of the “supernatural” themes of the Bible and traditional Christianity. I’d like to know how you understand them and deal with them in preaching and teaching.
Bishop: I’d be delighted!
Seminarian: Thank you! See you next week!
Bishop: See you then.
Hello Ron.
I’ve read this second dialogue episode, and have mixed feelings about commenting, lest i should spoil things. I hope not, it’s a very provocational installment, rather ‘Screwtape & Wormwood’ in some senses! Though of course, not emulatory of Jack Lewis’ ideas.
My comments read backwards from the bottom of the chronicle upwards- in order to illustrate what a pickle the student puts himself in.
B: “-they commnicate important beliefs about God & support Jesus’ teaching about love & justice…”
The polite bishop understates his case perhaps, many Christians see the ‘supernatural’ as essential evidence of divine love. Such ideas as put forward by Lazarus the Beggar are a great illustration- or would the student have it there is no ‘gulf’ or Abraham or heaven. See later.
The bishop also rolls in the word ‘justice’ behind love, interesting that he ties these words as a pair: love can be now & not yet, but his ‘justice’ refers directly to the student’s usage. I.e. is he trying to parody social justice with ‘heavenly justice’?
S: “-as i understand him, Jesus focused on the love of God and love of neighbour, the Kingdom of God, peace, and social justice”.
” – a beautiful moral message with a burden of believing supernatural acts…”
Mmmmnhh. There’s that kicker. It’s my belief that we have here, a critical meltdown in the perceived ‘order of things’- priorities if you will. To even write “social justice” in this naive litany is unusual, and i’d like a 5,000 word essay from the student why our God Jesus Christ might be happy with that phrase tagged on there…. Leave it for now.
Are supernatural beliefs really burdensome?
{I will stick my neck out here, for the sake of the student, and declare what i personally find burdensome; is the propensity for priests & churches & world religions that can no longer correctly preach sin from a supernaural standpoint, and instead they weaponize it, but can no longer terrify their congregants with ‘burning at the stake’, and so are clueless as to why their churches are empty}.
S: “-i should allow people in my church to keep believing stories that i know are not literally/historically true…. treating them as children”.
I won’t qualify this with criticism, suffice it to say- read your bible. And try to read the red letter bits, and then ‘try’ to pay some attention to the words of Jesus Christ our Lord. This fella worries me.
Being more helpful, he should look at Kant’s definitive writings on the noumenal aspects of God, the cosmos, and the soul. Then the memoires of CS Lewis talking about his epiphany of the ‘noumenal hypothesis’. I’m sure if the lad really thought hard and prayed, he could take himself to the edge of the cosmos, and ask ” what can i see, what is there, hello—?” The fact that this unknown unknown supports his alledgedly physical only being is so far wasted. And he thinks God is a story?
B: “-studying critically and academically…. inevitably raises doubts about the supernaturalism of the bible & traditional theology”.
The bishop is being rhetorical here. Ha! I’d have been screaming, “what- how so- examples please?”
We’ve discounted the supernatural on a whim, and now the screwtape is complete, the truth is what i say it is?
I myself am just such a dissenter; my own questions, for me personally, lead by the HS have taught me how much science & reason & analytics can bring a person closer to God. Halleluyah. Each of our journeys of faith, grace and knowledge are in God’s unique blessing….. and this might be the best answer to the young student’s dilemma above ( about his congregants).
B: “- general platitudes about kindness, love, racial and environmental justice, acceptance of differences, and celebration of diversity”…” God’s acceptance …. instruct them in ways of love & justice.”
This is the bishop’s gauntlet laid down. The truth is that this litany is meaningless without God, and moreso, without Christ. Without Jesus Christ (redemption, salvation, victory, providence and depenence preached in the gospel) these are just pretty, dare i say ” woke” entitlement culture aspirations.
Did this student of religion in waiting for his illustrious career see the gauntlet?
Well, his reply was-
S:”-since we know that supernatural beliefs, taken in a literal sense, are not of the essence of christianity, we need not feel a sense of urgency to correct–…”
*** red light flashing ***
Blessings to all.
Thanks Ron, JS
( will you rescue the lad for my benefit?)
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